Gujjar Protest - the worst outcome of Reservation

The outcome of the Gujjar Agitation has led to more than 30 deaths, by none other than the policers. I was infuriated at this, because, the agitators are not rowdy’s or anti-nationals, to shoot at sight. They are just one of the communities in india, which was struggling for a the ST status. How come, the police kill those people.

It all seems, there are failures at many levels. First the ealier protests by Gujjar leaders are completely ignored, and mishandled. And for one year, their demands had been forgotten. Even after the protests started, the situation could have been dealt differently.

Inheriting British Totalatarian:

The whole british based beurocracy is devised for imperialism and totalatarian. Its aim is to bring the total population in to their hold, so that they can rule without any opposition. But, we are inheriting the same legacy still now.

Whenever any protests happen, instead of understanding the problem behind, we tend to be a totalatarian. Ie, the attitude that people should not protest against government in any circumstances.

There is some level of reason for the britishers to do that.. But there is no standing on an independant government to do the same..

The Chief minister Vasundara raje had issued statements, that the interests of the state is top priority for her. She could not compromise on that on this gujjar agitation.

But, are these gujjars not a part of the state? Arent they protesting for their interests? Is state separate from the people?

The gujjars are not against any other community. So the security of other communities is also not under question, and this protest cannot be termed a caste war.

Learning on this incident:

There are many things to learn from this Gujjar protest.

1. The reservation should be removed at any cost.

If there had been no reservation, there is no reason for these gujjars to protest. The main area of concern is that Meena community through their votebank, got the ST status, using which they got as much benefits, leaving out the gujjar community.

So Reservation marginalises one community and promotes other, thus creating conflicts.

Earlier, the reservation was justified by diverting attention to brahmins. But now, the myth of Brahminism being exploded, the dragon came from the underneath.. Other sections of people who are affected by this are coming out in protest, which the intellectuals do not have any reason to suppress just as they did to brahmins.

2. Empowering the people:

This is the only solution where we can bring the people out of poverty. Education should not be for jobs, rather empowering oneself. For that, all means should be provided to the people.

3. Decentralising the governance:

The idea of everything should be done by the government should be thrown off. This type of governance, enslaves the people. This is the reason, why we are seeing so much protests like “Government did not clean ditches, or government did not lay the road or pipeline”.. Instead, the powers should be decentralised, enabling the local people to fulfill their needs themselves.

In this case, if the powers had been decentralised, and became participatory, the gujjars would not have felt isolated or marginalised. Because, they would have become part of the governance.

4. Engaging Castes Positively:

The Castes were NOT evil. They are an arrangement, where people lived socially and Communally, doing different jobs needed for the society.

In this case, the gujjars were mostly workers, and the meenas were mostly land owners. Gujjars supply milk to meenas, and work in their lands for lease. There was strong interdependance, where both are benefitted equally.

The problem arised only when Meenas rose to government jobs using ST quota, and Gujjars left behind.

If both caste has been seen in total, and approached positvely, the problem could have been solved, by strengthening the existing interdependance of both the communities.

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As such, the BJP should have a clear cut policy on governance. Except for Gujarat and Himachal, other states simply dont have the vision, They simply do what the britishers had designed for us.

This should change.

The jaipur Blast - where pink turned red..

It was horrific news on hearing the blasts at the pink city..  As per the news there were more than 80 deaths and 150 injured.   The picture of the devastation can be from the following link.

http://www.rajasthanpatrika.com/jaipur-blast/photogallery/1.htm

(Warning: weak hearted, pls resist from the visiting above link)

This terrorist attack is believed to be carried over by HUJI, a new bangladeshi outfit operating at the support of pakistan.  But, even after the media announced the accused, our home ministers and defence ministers are reluctant to point out the enemy.  What prevents us from naming the masterminds.  The whole world knows, its the pakistan which is behind all terror attacks.

The article from tarun vijay is given below.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Columnists/Tarun_Vijay/The_Right_View/Tenants_rule_owners_are_absent/articleshow/msid-3042464,curpg-2.cms

What happened to past bomb blast probes?

Incidently, this bomb blasts again remind us what happened to the investigation of the past bomb blasts..  Till now, most of the bomb blasts are forgotten, and there is no accountability to the dead and the affected.

But still today, the government is hesitant to enact tougher laws like POTA..  a sign of blatant spinelessness..  and our pseudo seculars will jump high and low that it would be used to target muslims..  As modi said, there is no other insult to the mulsims than done by these pseudo seculars and their supporters.

Its high time that the muslim community should come forward and understand these culprits.

Just my random thoughts ..

India gifts Nepal to China

I found this article in daily pioneer..  Since the dailypioneer site lacks permalink, i am reproducing the article in my blog..

The author has expressed the reality of the Nepal’s situation.  When we compare the news report by other english media, we could very well feel the difference, and how far those media had stooged low to compromise india’s security.

I am again insisting in my blog..  The communists are the number one enemy, and they are the worst traitors of India.  Its high time that we throw them to their ideological homeland..

India gifts Nepal to China

by Balbir K Punj

The UPA Government can now flaunt one more ‘achievement’ along with inflation, deceleration in rate of growth and industrial production, and minority appeasement. The latest addition to this list is the gift of Nepal on a platter to China. With Communist China under virtual global siege for its horrible record on human rights in Tibet, the success of armed Maoists in Nepal should come as a heart-warmer for China’s President Hu Jintao. The Indian Communists who keep the UPA in power are, of course, delighted. Mr Sitaram Yechuri has hailed the Maoist victory even as his comrades in Nepal are preparing to assume office with an anti-India agenda, including the revision of the peace and friendship treaty.

The attack that Maoists mounted on an important railway station in Bihar and looted the armoury, killing six policemen, last weekend, even as Maoists in Nepal were celebrating their electoral victory, is a straw in the political wind. Mr Yechuri is trying to mislead us by claiming that the victory of Maoists in Nepal through the ballot box will send a message to Maoists in India to give up their insurgency and take to democratic methods. In reality, it will be the other way round.

Due to the UPA’s dalliance with the Communists for retaining power — and before that with Maoists during the 2004 elections to gain power — Maoists have gained influence over the last four years. This finds expression in periodic attacks on security forces at key points along the ‘Red Corridor’ the Maoists have set up through the forested areas of Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra, Chhattisgarh, Orissa, Jharkhand and Bihar up to India’s border with Nepal. The attack on Jhajhar railway junction on the Patna-Howrah mainline is not the first such incident.

The path the Nepal Maoists, once they are in power, will follow is already well-known. The monarchy, which has served as an anchor for Nepali society, will be dismantled. Instead of being a Hindu kingdom, which gave that country its unique identity, Nepal will be made a ’secular republic’. The ’secular’ character is likely to mean anti-Hindu (as in India) and a ‘republic’ under Maoist domination may turn out to be another Cambodia under Pol Pot or a North Korea. Not only will Nepal’s links with Indian society, culture and history be snapped, the Maoists will demand the scrapping of existing treaties with India. They will try to force India into giving more concessions — for instance, unrestricted transit of goods.

At the same time, we can expect the Maoists to cry on China’s shoulders and accuse India of denying Nepal its basic needs. China has already built a highway up to Kathmandu. We have to view the Maoist political programme in Nepal in the context of China’s own strengthening of its strategic capabilities in Tibet, the ethnic cleansing it has achieved in Lhasa and the claims Beijing has been making on Indian territories all along the Himalayas. This will provide us with an idea of the serious situation that will now arise for the security of the country in the wake of the Maoist triumph at the political level and the withering of the Nepali state as we have known it for centuries.

Apologists of the UPA are now saying that the rout of the Nepali Congress was unexpected and that Government was all along strengthening its clout in Nepal — by persuading King Gyanendra and the Maoists to end their confrontation and revive the political process. This may be true. But New Delhi’s fatal mistake was to accept the Maoist demand to end the monarchy. It was a ‘heads I win, tails you lose’ situation for Maoist leader Prachanda who managed to keep Indian influence at an arm’s length when it still mattered.

India could have helped the non-Communist political forces in Nepal to convert the absolute monarchy into constitutional monarchy. The demand of the Maoists to scrap Nepal’s Hindu identity had shocked even their allies in the interim Government. But the Maoists were able to dictate terms, partly because the setting up of the constitutional machinery was not made incumbent on disarming the insurgents.

As a result, the Maoists retained their armed strength and threatened to withdraw from the interim Government every time their non-Communist allies in the interim Government stood up to them. Holding the election while armed Maoist cadre were freely moving about amounted to making a mockery of the democratic process. But New Delhi did nothing to raise this issue with the UN and other bodies that took on the task of overseeing the fairness of the election.

For a long time our security agencies have suspected that the flow of arms to Maoists in India had a Nepal link. Now the collaboration between Maoists in India and Nepal will become an open affair. Indian Maoists will draw inspiration from Prachanda’s ’success’ and the methods used by him to achieve this success.

This is not to say that the other actors in the political drama in Nepal are innocent victims of Communist machinations. The monarchy lost much of its sheen after the mysterious palace massacre in which King Birendra and his family were killed. King Gyanendra, who subsequently assumed the throne, could not connect with the restive people of his kingdom. The mainstream Nepali politicians proved to be a querulous bunch devoid of any larger vision, leave alone the ability to implement it. Mr GP Koirala, who became Prime Minister in the interim Government, was too ill to lead his party and fight an electoral battle against Maoist leaders much younger than him.

It is surprising that India, which had a stake in the outcome of the Constituent Assembly election, chose to turn a blind eye to these developments. It has now paid the price, both for its inaction and lack of imagination in its Nepal policy. Surprisingly, the Government showed great alacrity in persuading the King to climb down in 2006.

Some people in India are now hopeful that once in power, the Maoist leadership will appreciate the reality of Nepal’s geographical and cultural links with India and the depth of its economy’s dependence on this country. They forget that Nepal’s politicians have mastered the art of playing the victim of ‘Big Brother’ India every time their unreasonable demands are rejected by New Delhi.

With Beijing finding an ideological brother in power in Kathmandu, what is needed in New Delhi is a Government that can be firm when required while being flexible to Nepal’s reasonable demands. But what we have is a Government that is dictated to by India’s Communists. These very Communists are also playing China’s game as is witnessed in their reaction to what is happening in Tibet.

Losing the last Hindu Kindom - where lies and democracy wins

he elections to the Nepal assembly are over, and now counting of votes began. There were lot of international observers and monitoring agencies who came there to monitor the elections. The results will be announced after 10 days.

The newspapers so far, projected as though the holy, never-wrong democracy is flourishing over the Monarch and fuedalism. The Maoists, who butchered numerous people, created lawlessness through out the country, and involved in rowdyism, totalitarian and fascist acts are now projected as those who are longing for peace.

Is there anything called Justice or righteousness here?

What is the problem with the king? He has provided stability, and security to the people of Nepal.

Are our Indic Kings feudal?

Before that, let’s see what is meant by feudalism.

As per wikipedia, feudalism is d

Feudalism, a term first used in the early modern period (17th century), in its most classic sense refers to a Medieval European political “system” comprised of a set of reciprocal legal and military obligations among the warrior nobility, revolving around the three key concepts of lords, vassals, and fiefs.

Feudalism is essentially characterised by lords, vassals and serfs. This is the characteristics of western society, where the people has to accept the authority of the kings.  Much of the lands was owned by nobles, who inturn control the people in their respective areas.

So essentially, there are few noble landlords who controlled the entire country and people, and the kings controlling these landlords.  The common people were mere slaves.

So, what was there in India?  It has been entirely different from the above.  There is no such thing called slaves.  Rather, people lived in a commune way.  Each commune was brought under a local ruler, who is responsible for the administration of the area.  Normally, the community which does agriculture is given the local administrative tasks.

Relation b/w Kings and People:

However in India, the relationship b/w kings and people were based on the concept called Dharma.  Who ever becomes the king, the people accepted him as long as he stuck to the dharma of a ruler.  So, people worshipped the rightful king as God, and the kings in turn treat his subjects with respect.

We can see this beautiful relation in Bhutan, Thailand, and Nepal.

Not only kings.  Any person, who protects the people were in turn reverred by the people.  Earlier, it was the warriors who protected people.  Later, during muslim rule and british rule, where political class lost its power, people reverred those wealthy persons who helped them in critical situations.  Many of the chettiars are once largest donors to the society.

In western society, this kind of mutual respect was absent. Any one who do not accept the king is tortured or killed.  The relation b/w people are more or less master slave.

Imposition of western model in India:

When britishers completely dominated India, the first thing they targetted was the political centre of all regions.  Most of the endowments to temples and educational institutions were unsurped, and later, the eurpoean model of polity was introduced.

Those who offer more wealth to britishers and co-operate with them are given powers whereas Indian kings gave powers to those who administer the area well.

Thus, over the 200 years of british rule, the european model of feudalism started creeping in.

Deliberate Media mis-representation:

Let’s consider the Nepal situation.  The earlier king Birendra was loved by the whole nepal people.  Later, unfortunately his whole family was massacred.  IT was alleged that king gnanendra was responsible for the events.  The people also became suspicious, and he has lost some respect among people.

Imagine.. Losing some respect itself is a sever blow to the king, and hence most of indian kings feared for people’s opinion.  This aspect is completely absent in western monarchy.  Another factor which shows us that indian kings were not Feudal.

Ok..  But, the usual business continued. King did his duty, and the people did not have much problem from him.

This is the reason, why there was no opposition from the people to Gnanendra.

The maoist atrocities:

It was the maoist who started violence during the rule of King Birendra itself.  Again, the usual artificial scenario was taken up.  They tried to project as though king is suppressing everyone.  But it falied much, as there was not much support from the people.

So, later they employed the usual tactics of revolutionaries from Che Guevara’s Guerilla Warfare book.  These are as follows.

  • establish a base in the jungle.
  • Attack all the governmental institution in the country side, so that the government could not function there.
  • Create a situation, where there is no alternative to the revolutionaries.
  • THen launch the struggle towards the urban centres, and finally capture the power.

If we see the history of maoist, this has been what happened so far.  The maoist unleashed wave of terror, so that no one dared to oppose them.  THus virtually there was no alternative to them.

However, due to India’s support to the king, and people’s acceptance of the king, the maoist could not make any inroads in to the urban centres much.

Role of Church:

Maoist leader is a christian.  And its obvious, that the international missionaries has been behind the recent hijack of the monarch.  They had been attempting for conversion programmes for many years, but the king
had kept them away. So there is a need to overthrow him, to continue their cultural genocide.

Role of India:

Traditionally, India has been the supporter of the king, as the king is culutrally more close to india.  But, the last government being virtually hijacked by madam antonio maino, alias sonia gandhi, there was no one to deal with any crisis that india faced.  The PM being a dummy role, and with real power existing with non-acting, incapable sonia gandhi,  the situations in nepal has been deliberately left to degrade.

One factor is the communists locking the government.

Another factor is the fact that sonia gandhi is a catholic christian.  She has no other option, except to support the missionaries in overthrowing the king.

Role of China:

Its an open secret that china is behind the maoists.  But, they also seem to be cautious in dealing with them, as they also supported the king earlier.  It seems the are playing double game earlier to keep nepal in check, and now openly sided with the maoists.

Why should Monarchy be abolished?

No one seems to ask this question.  With most medias under western control and maoists control, there was deliberate unreasonable propoganda against the king.  Even BBC is believed to have included in this propoganda.

Without ever reasoning properly, they started putting news like “Nepal is geared up for secular republic” ..  No proofs or no representation of people’s voices in these newspapers..  But, they tried to project as if the people are welcoming the change and against the king.

Particularly, no one ever asked the question “Why not nepal be Hindu state?” when the 95% of its people are Hindus.  No press seems to ask, or let the hindu people’s voice be represented.

The reason is that the secularism has been deliberately thrust upon Nepal, to aid christian conversion.

The behaviour of Maoists:

If we see at the behaviour of Maoists, they have been virtually representing totalitarian regime.  Prachanda is worse than stalin.  There is no alternate views allowed.

The youth communist league has unleashed violence against every opponens that nepal PM koirala termed them as Youth Criminalist league.

Why should the international community support such criminal organisation.

Shouldnt Prachanda be put behind international court for organising mass murders on the Nepal people?

Hijacking of Democracy:

This democracy is the most comedy ever happened in Nepal.  The royalists are deliberately suppressed by the maoist.  They had already suppressed all emerging leaders in the country side, which is their strong hold.  With money from china pumped, they had established their safe base.

Till the date of election, violence continued.  Former killers from maoist side now standing elections.

The international media, hides the fact that peaceful nepal has been shattered by maoist, and in turn, hail them as heroes who had enough heart to change themselves to peaceful path.

Once again, the business of peace and democracy is staged to suit vested interests of some international lobby.

Indias self-inflicted foolishness:

The church is openly working for its selfish interests.  The maoist for their selfish needs.  The america, the britain, pakistan and china, all are playing their role to secure a place to contain india.

But, India remote controlled by inactive antonia maino , seems to be voluntarily letting its neighbour to get in to paralysis.  A nation strongly affiliated to india culturally, is not going in to the hands of those people, who are dead against india, and Hinduism.

Its hightime that we save india first from this foreign lady, and then from the maoists.  The need of the hour is our indian learned men, to realise this utter dangers.

Statements made by our ministers over food crisis

Update:

Sukumar has given the relevant link in his comment which contained the exact interview given by our commerce minister kamal nath. It was very sensible, and DNA seems to have quoted out of context, his statements.

I dont have any sources to verify sharad pawars statements.

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I havent read any other news as foolish as this .

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1158662

Our Honourable commerce minister Kamal Nath says, Poor people are eating more and hence this is challenge..

First of all, what he said itself is wrong.. If the poors are eating more, why do the poor farmers commit suicide daily?

The truth is that the riches are consuming ( indeed wasting) more food than poor. Secondly, the number of middle class people increased a lot.

Even according to commerce minister’s statement, what does he expect the poor to do? Should they again restrict themselves to one meals per day?

And our sharadpawar has discovered “South indians eating chapati leads to wheat scarcity” .. And he is our agricultural minister.. lets again pity on ourselves..

The fact is that there is acute shortage of rice in south india, and that food crisis is national, whether wheat or rice. The minister who has to find solutions for these problems are busy in hosting functions for our cricket team..

What is the solution?
Its a plain logic that when there is food scarcity, we need to increase production. To increase production, we need to do two things. Increase productivity, and increase agricultural area..

Unfortunately, our government is going in the opposite way. On one side, they are driving the farming community out of their profession to other jobs. The agricultural labourers are also driven away from farming.

On the other side, the agricultural lands are being snatched over for industrial projects.. The recent singur incident proves it all.. Thousands of people who lived peacefully by cultivating throughout the year, are now made landless. A Car factory cannot provide food to the people.

And our another minister Dasmunshi says “Increasing agricultural area cannot increase food production..”

A nation, which ignores its agriculture, is destined to destruction. And i am afraid that we are heading towards that end.

For everything, our media (ofcourse, foreign controlled), always point us towards US.. and our great mastermind Finacnce minister says “In US only 1% does farming.. so they are developed”..

Today, they have three times less population and three times more area than us.. They can scale up their agricultural lands and increase production.. That cannot apply to india. We need to preserve every inch of our farm land..

But unfortunately, we are losing everything needed for agriculture. Man power, skills, social infrastructure, water, and atlast the farmland itself.

Today, most of the youngsters from agricultural family had moved out of that profession.. and today, only the old generations are doing agriculture. and over the coming years, when they get aged, we will be left with none in farming..

For all these years, right from that idiotic nehru, we have ignored our strengths and copied the western model.. and this self destruction of ourselves is showing results today..

We are heading a severe crisis ahead..

Who Controls Indian Media..

I do not have any authentic proofs for these info.  Since most of the ownership of media’s are not exposed, its difficult for the people to find them..

The only way we can judge is from the way they report news.   In that sense, i feel, the below details are correct.

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NDTV:
Funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, Gen Secy of Communist party of India.

CNN-IBN:

100% Funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annualy allocates 800 Million Dollars for Promotion of its channel. Its Indian Head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.

TIMES GROUP LIST:
TIMES OF INDIA, MID-DAY, NAV-BHARTH TIMES, STARDUST, FEMINA, VIJAYA TIMES, VIJAYA KARNATAKA, TIMES NOW (24 hr News Channel) & many more.

Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 80% of the Funding is done by “WORLD CHRISTIAN COUNCIL” , and balance 20% is equally shared by an Englishman and an Italian. The Italian ROBERTIO MINDO IS A CLOSE RELATIVE OF SONIA GANDHI.

STAR TV:
Is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters Pontificial Church Melbourne.

HINDUSTAN TIMES:

Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times Group.

THE HINDU:
A English Daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne, Switzerland.

INDIAN EXPRESS:
DIVDED INTO TWO GROUPS. THE INDIAN EXPRESS & NEW INDIAN EXPRESS (SOUTHERN EDITION). Acts Ministries has major stake in the Indian express and later is still with the Indian counterpart

EEENADU:

Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao

ANDHRA JYOTHI:
The MUSLIM PARTY OF HYDERABAD known as (MIM) along with a Congress Minister Has purchased this Telgu daily very recently.

THE STATESMAN:

It is controlled by Communist Party of India

KAIRAL TV:
It is Controlled by Communist party of India (marxist)

MATHRABHOOMI:

Leaders of muslim league and Communist Leaders have major investment.

ASIAN AGE &
DECCAN CHRONICLE
:

Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its chief Editor M.J.AKBAR.

Hindu convert - a spiritual teacher at temple in Omaha

A nice article on how an american named Frank Morales got interested spirituality in 10 years, and found the answer in Hinduism.  Later, he became a teacher in one of the hindu temples, because of his deep understanding of Hinduism.

He has changed his name to Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya, and runs the following portal 

http://www.dharmacentral.com

More and more americans and europeans are realising the inherent spirituality of Hinduism. According to Frank Morales, there are around 1.5 million americans who are deeply interested in Hinduism.

A great news to hear about.

Only a lamp will drive away the darkness.  And Hinduism will certainly make people more accepting.

Media Bias: Eraiyur Christian caste clash

The dalit christians at eraiyur, villupuram, Tamilnadu, was attacked by MBC christians, (Christian Vanniars), due to a problem in sharing of a church.

More details on the following link.

March-17,2008 - Dalit Christians attacked - reported by newindpress

This problem was still burning with Christian Vanniars, NOT willing to accomodate the dalit christians in the same church. They demanded to give separate church for the dalit christians.

Click here for More details.

Now see, how “The Hindu had downplayed this incident.”

They reported, that the archbishop is promising equal access to dalit christians.

Some Questions and Inferences:

1. Why kandhamal Violence in Orissa was so much sensitised, while this incident is downplayed?

2. When reporting any dalit case in Hinduism, its again sensitised so much. Teesta stalwad would protest, medha patkar will undertake fast, and marxist will start their barking. Almost in all newspapers, there would be an article, on how Hinduism is evil, and ridden with evil caste.

Why there is complete downplaying of this events both locally and nationally. is there rule, that anything happening under christian banner should not be reported or taken seriously?
3. This incident exposed the fallacy of the christian missionaries claims, that christianity promotes equality.  While its a fact, that the missionaries doesnt accept or give equality to other sects of the same faith, like protestants vs catholics.

4. More importantly, this incident proved that the caste clash is more of a social problem rather than religious problem. Infact, its not the caste, but the enmity b/w the castes, that’s the problem.  There is no religious doctrine in caste to attack others. Most of the clashes are due to mis-understanding and historic rivalry.

But, the christian missionaries, had successfully established, that caste is a Hindu problem, hiding the very fact, that europoean society was full of brutal slave system, even under 1000 years of christianity.

5. Why hadnt, christian missionaries, eliminated the caste problem even though the people of eraiyur village converted some 100 years back. This is a proof that missionaries are concerned at converting people, and not serving the people. Once a people is converted, then they are ignored, as the missionary purpose is solved.  The problem suddenly disappears for the preachers, even though there would be no change in the lives of the converts, except for change of god.

6. Where are those dalit organisations gone? Infact, they should have protested. But unlike in the previous cases, this time, the missionaries had switched off their media button.

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Note:

This is targetted only at christian missionaries.  I dont have any issues with normal christians.

Rest left to the readers.

Chidambaram - Facts you won’t get to see/read in our secular media

This is yet another update on Chidambaram Temple.  SV Badri from chennai had written this piece of article..  This is clear and elaborate on the real history of Chidambaram..

I am reproducing this, so as to spread this alternate views on the Chindambaram Natarajar temple, to atleast the internet public..

Please pass on this, to your circle, so as people will have the opportunity to read the other side of the story..

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From: S V Badri <svbadri@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Subject: Chidambaram - Facts you won’t get to see/read in our secular media
To: svbadri@gmail.com

20 Mar. 08

 

CHIDAMBARAM – FACTS YOU WON’T GET TO READ IN OUR SECULAR MEDIA

 

 

BACKGROUND:

 

Many of my friends and some email acquaintances called me on the Chidambaram Nataraja Mandir issue. A few of them simply got carried away by reports in the mainstream media, which as always, is far removed from the truth.

 

“What is Kanakasabhai? What is its significance in Chidambaram Mandir”?

“Why are Dikshitars anti-Tamil”?

“Why can’t they allow a non-Brahmin, Arumugaswamy to render Thevaram?”

” Why are only Brahmins allowed to render Devsaram at the Kanakasabhai?

“Does this not reflect caste-discrimination of the Brahmins?”

” Why is the Tamil Thevaram not sung at the Kanagasabai and Pujas done only in Samskritam?”   

Should not the Government step in and correct the anomaly in the rendering of the pujas?, a score of similar questions, shot at me with the tirelessness of Arjuna.

 

While I answered each of my caller and visitor patiently, it has also prompted me to write a piece on this if only to help clear the misconceptions of all people including some of my Brahmin friends.

 

The purpose of this write-up is not to go into any sordid details of what happened inside the Mandir on the fateful day before the Maha Shivaratri.

 

HR&CE and Chidambaram Nataraja Mandir:

 

The Chidambaram Nataraja Mandir does not come under the control of the Hindu Religious Charitable and Endowment Department (HR&CE) of the Govt of Tamil Nadu. The Madras High Court very clearly had given an order that this Mandir is a “Denominated Temple” and is independent of the Government’s HR&CE. Successive Dravidian Party lead Governments have always tried in vain to bring this under the HR&CE.

 

A few years back, an Executive Officer was appointed by the Govt of TN. The Dikshitars went to court and after the Madras High Court pronounced it as illegal, the Government order was revoked. The recent statement of the Minister for HR&CE reflects the Government’s intention to take-over this Mandir. The secular and very “Hindu-friendly” media started spreading canards demonising the Dikshitars, portraying them as anti-Tamil and adding fuel to the favourite full-time avocation of the Dravidian parties – Brahmin bashing. The whole event has been painted as Brahmin Vs Non-Brahmin, Aryan Vs Dravidian, Samskritam Vs Tamil issue.  Nothing can be more malicious, as you will see from the following:

 

 

  1. What is Kanakasabhai? What is its significance in Chidambaram Mandir?

 

In every Mandir, the Sanctum Sanctorum where the Prana-Pratishta of the Moola Vigraha is made is called the “Garbha Griha”. The Garbha Griha in Chidambaram is called as “Chitsabhai”. This is where the Vigraha of Bhagawan Nataraja is housed. The Arthamandapam normally is the place from where the Bhaktas have their darshan in Mandirs. In Chidambaram, the Arthamandapam is called as “Kanakasabhai”. In many Mandirs, the Arthamandapam is devoid of any Vigrahas that need to be rendered daily Pujas as per the Aagamic traditions. However, the Kanakasabhai which is the Arthamandapam in Chidambaram Mandir, houses the Spatika Lingam of Chandramouleeswarar as also the Nandi Bhagawan and Ratna Sabhapathi.

 

The Mandir follows the 6 KAla Pujas, traditionally. The Dikshitars render the 6 KAla Pujas inside the Garbha Griha. At the end of each of these 6 KAla Puja, an OduvAr Murthy RENDERS the Tamil Hymns like the Thevaram. Just as a traditional priest is trained in all Samskrit Pujas, Shastras in a PAtashAla under a guru, the Oduvar Murthys are also trained in a PAtasAla in Tamil Hymns of prayer from a very young age and become experts in the rendering of these Soulful Hymns.

 

  1. Do the Oduvars sing from the Kanakasabhai? Why should only Brahmins sing from the Kanakasabhai?

 

This is a mischievous propaganda of the atheists and the government headed by a self-proclaimed, yellow-shawl-wearing-atheist, Karunanidhi. Kanakasabhai is the Arthamandapam in Chidambaram Mandir. Kanakasabhai houses the Spatika Lingam of Chandramouleeswara along with Nandi Bhagawan and Rathna Sabhapathi. This place is revered with the same sanctity reserved normally for the Garbha Griha. That only Brahmins are permitted to sing Thevaram from Kanakasabhai or that Non-Brahmins are prohibited from singing Thevaram from Kanakasabhai is a deliberate lie to show the Dikshitars in poor light. The fact is that NOBODY, NOT BRAHMINS, NOT NON- BRAHMINS are permitted to sing Thevaram or for that matter any Slokas and in any language in the Kanakasabhai. The rights rest only with the Dikshitars to offer the traditional Pujas to the Bhagawan, including singing of the Thevaram from Kanakasabhai.

 

Bhaktas, irrespective of their caste can sing any Tamil hymn from anywhere other than the Arthamandapam, the Kanakasabhai, which is the exclusive domain of the Dikshitars. Just because I have learnt all the mantras from the CD, I cannot claim it my right to recite the Abhisheka mantras from the Garbha Griha at the Bhagawan Balaji Mandir, Tirupati, even if I am a Brahmin by birth and that it was my late Grandfather who gave from the Mandir, the world famous Tirupati Laddu.

 

Similarly, nobody other than the priests is permitted inside the Garbha Griha, in any Hindu Mandir in South India. This includes even Brahmins, who are not priests of the Mandir. They have to just stand along with all the others in the Arthamandapam and have darshan of the Bhagawan, the presiding deity. While in all Mandirs the Pujas end within the Garbha Griha, in Chidambaram, the Dikshitars render certain Pujas from the Arthamandapam called as the Kanakasabhai. Therefore, the Kanakasabhai attains significance.

 

  1. Why are Dikshitars Anti-Tamil?

 

Nothing can be farther from the truth than this. While the Vaishnava priests who are well-versed in all the Agamic Samskrit pujas, be it Vaikhanasa or Pancharatra, are also well trained by the Guru ParamparA, in rendering the soul-stirring PAsurams of the AzhvArs, NAlayara Divya Prabandham etc., which are in exquisite Tamil; the Dikshitars spend years to get trained under their Gurus in both the Agamic and the Tamil Hymns of the Shaiva NAyanmArs etc., They are trained to render them in perfect diction. Many people are not aware that the Pujas in the Nataraja Mandir is not complete with just the traditional rendering of Sankrit Slokas in the Garbha Griha. The Pujas are complete only after the rendering of the Thevaram etc., in mellifluous voice by the Oduvar Murthys and the Dikshitars.

 

  1. Why can’t they allow a non-Brahmin, Arumugaswamy to render Thevaram from the Kanakasabhai?

 

The Dravidian Parties are at it again, Brahmin-bashing. They always resort to this as a breather in between their all time favourite, Hindu-bashing. This is a typical Brahmin Vs Non-Brahmin twist the Media portrays to please its political masters. Many people are not aware that the Bhaktas including the Brahmin Bhaktas are barred from rendering Thevaram or any Samskrit Sloka at the Kanakasabhai. Arumugaswamy is not a classic Oduvar out of the Gurukula of trained Oduvar mould. Besides, one has to understand the unique status of the Arthamandapam, the Kanakasabhai. Brahmins other than the traditional priests of the Mandir, the Dikshitars, are not allowed to render Pujas inside the Sanctum (Garbha Griha). Similarly, Brahmins are not allowed to render that part of the Nithya Puja, rendering of the Thevaram from the Kanakasabhai also. So the mischief of the Minister and the Media becomes evident that the issue is NOT Brahmin Vs Non-Brahmin, but one of sticking to Age-old Traditions, Shastras followed by the Mandir. So the argument that there is gross caste discrimination in this issue falls flat on its face.

 

  1. What does the Madras High Court say about the Chidambaram Mandir and its Dikshitars?

  

The Chidambaram Natarajar Temple is a denominated temple and its “Denomination” status had been originally conferred by the Court of Law during the British Period in the year 1891 and the same had been confirmed by the Supreme Court of India in the year 1958, asserting that, the micro-minority community of Dikshidars only have the traditional rights over the administration, customs and rituals of the Temple and that the HR & CE department doesn’t have the legal sanction to interfere in the affairs of this Temple.

 

The Madras High Court in its earlier order had clearly stated that the Dikshitars belong to a “religious denomination” and have the sole right to perform the Religious Pujas in the Nataraja Mandir of Chidambaram.

 

  1. Does the HR&CE have the right to interfere?
    
     The HR&CE has no right to interfere in the affairs of the Chidambaram Mandir.
Even in Mandirs under its control, the HR&CE has NO right to interfere in the Religious affairs, Pujas, Puja Vidhanas as per the Aagamic Shastras rendered by the priests of the respective Mandirs. HR&CE is only the administrator of the Mandir and have no right whatsoever to determine or alter the religious functions of the Mandir under their control.

 

However, to its credit, the HR&CE, has appropriated the right to loot Hindu Mandirs and its properties.

 

  1. Who are the constituents of the group that went with Arumugaswamy to raise the ruckus inside the Kanakasabhai?

 

A contingent of E V Ramaswamy Naicker’s Dravida Kazhagam Athiests, who I doubt have any idea of what Thevaram is. Indian Commies, whose stand as anti-Hindus (not the minorities or their religion) is well known. Human Rights activists, who fish in troubled waters for their 2 min fame under the arc-lights and escape when the minorities are proved to commit atrocities on the majority. Tamil Chauvinists, who had no idea that the Tamil Hymns are indeed rendered everyday by the Dikshitars from the Kanakasabhai and that anyone can render Tamil hymns in any part of the Mandir except the Garbha Griha and the Kanakasabhai. Linguistic chauvinist parties, who had never entered this Mandir in their lifetime and in all likelihood, will enter only to create disturbance of peace in a Hindu Mandir again, under the pretext of protecting Tamil language. Many of you may not be aware that the people who were with Arumugaswamy faltered innumerable times during their trial rendering of the Thevaram, when they entered the Kanakasabhai  waving the copy of the illegal order of the HR&CE.

 

There were two Muslim Attorneys who accompanied Arumugaswamy and got arrested along with him and the Dikshitars. Will these Advocates join me if I want to take a small group of Tamil lovers to protect Tamil Thai (Mother Tamil) in Mosques?

 

 

  1. Why do these people not agitate in Mosques and English Churches (There are Tamil Churches also), where Arabic and English prayers are rendered to their respective Gods?

 

Because, we Hindus are not given to violence, spontaneously. We have become docile, as we have lost all our ‘Kshatriyatva’. We are Spineless and cannot assert our rights to our prescribed or chosen methods of prayer. We have become so powerless that we cannot even defend ourselves. And when we hit back with rare and well deserved ferocity as we did in Gujarat, we do not know how to defend ourselves, aggressively from the pack of journalist and human right wolves that pounce on us in the name of protecting the minorities.

 

Unfortunately no Tamil leader will volunteer to fight for the cause of Tamil when it cannot become the medium of prayer for the Tamil Musalman in a Mosque that lies on the Tamil Bhoomi of Tamil Nadu. “Engum Tamizh, Edilum Tamizh”, meaning “Tamil Everywhere”, “Tamil in Everything” is the dictum of these Tamil chauvinists.  And these Tamil protectors have no balls to barge into a Mosque and demand that Arabic be replaced by Tamil, by Tamils and in the land of Tamils. I wonder if the rulers in various States and in Delhi have already conceded that our country is becoming Dar-ul-Islam or that it is ready to welcome the coming back of the messiah through most fraudulent means. The linguistic chauvinists are all Hindu-bashers, hence by extension, secular and therefore this selective protection of Tamil is their patented right. Q.E.D.

 

They will not question why there should be a separate English and Tamil Church, like the two-tumbler system. Or why there should be a KApu Church, A Reddy Church etc., Or why should the “caste” Christists of Eraiyur kick the shit out of the converted “Dalit” Christists.  To them this is not discrimination. And they dare not make an agitation to include Tamil prayers in the so-called English Churches and Mosques. And the Christists will continue their separate church and burial ground for the Dalit converts. And none who went with Arumugaswamy will dare come out in demonstration against these acts of blatant discrimination and christist hooliganism.

 

  1. The HR&CE Minister said “The Dikshitars are not managing the landed properties of the Mandir properly hence there is a need for the Government to take control of the Mandir and regulate it” What is the truth?

 

This is malicious falsehood. These Dravidian Party ministers go one up on Goebbels. Many people are not aware that the Chidambaram Mandir owns no landed property at all and it has always been run by the “Kattalais”, meaning donations from devotees. Therefore, the allegation of mismanagement of Mandir assets by the Dikshitars is false and deserves to be consigned to governmental dustbins. The information on this Mandir Kattalai system  is available in a brilliant book titled – “The Economy of South Indian Temples” by GN Ramakrishna Iyer, published by the Annamalai University, year 1946, Page 50-51.

 

Therefore, the manufactured pretext of mismanagement of the property by the Dikshitars, only to take control of the Mandir, holds no water.

 

  1. Karunanidhi said that “Those Gods who cannot understand Tamil can leave Tamil Nadu”. What is your take?

 

Karunanidhi is one up on the Thackerays. Thackeray threatens the mortals. Karunanidhi is always special. He assumes the powers to banish non-Tamil-understanding- Gods from his Tamil Land.

 

Poor, Allah! When the Mosques do not even give him the opportunity to listen to the Suras in chaste Tamil instead of Arabic, where will he go to learn Tamil? Atleast, Jesus has a generous sprinkle of Tamil Churches to chisel the raw edges of his language. Will Karunanidhi ever nurse the idea to banish Allah, for his ignorance of the Tamil Language? Or will he send Jesus packing to his troubled land?

 

Karunanidhi should thank Samuel Rajasekhar. Because, Samuel will offer them subsidy to travel to their respective domains.

 

And for the benefit of Karunanidhi, in the biggest Hindu Mandir, the Tirupati Balaji Mandir, the Samskrit prayers are always augmented by the rendering of the Aazhwars PAsurams, NAlayira Divya Prabandham, Aandal Tiruppavai. During the daily Thomala Seva, one gets to hear the “MArgazhi Thingal” sung inside the Sanctum in its perfect diction. Bless our Stars! Rendering of prayers in Tamil is an age-old tradition in all the Shaiva and Vaishnava Mandirs.

 

The Hindu Gods are relieved.

 

The Hindu Gods do not have any language problem. They can accept prayers in any form and in any language. However, they may enjoy Samskrit better because it is after all the Deva BAsha, the language of the Gods and the mother of all languages, known and unknown.

 

Deva Basha – God’s own.

 

Namaste,

S V Badri

Book: Born in Sin: The Panchsheel Agreement

The Sacrifice of Tibet

This book was written by “Claud Arpi”, a french citizen, who now lives in Auroville. He is an expert on Tibet and had written number of articles on tibetan issues.

I came across this book review in Rajeev Srivinivasan’s blog . The book can be purchased online at this rediff’s site.

In this book, he covers on how ill-fated, and delusion, the panch sheel agreement was, and the idiotic, foolish and irresponsible behaviour of Nehru, in voluntarily sacrificing Tibet, thus causing, enormous harm, not only to Tibet, but to India as well..

Well.. The fallcy of Nehruvism, and his built-upon brand image was proved long back, when internet started opening the world out. Millions of people learn great about Nehru, and Gandhis, without ever realising, that these are self praising contents written by them and their followers..

Particularly, the Brand gandhi was carefully morphed so that he is shown as the saviour of peace, and epitome of ahimsa.. But, its a hard fact, that both are merely illusions to cheat the innocents and childrens.. Gandhi served british in WW-1 and is never the saviour..

Ok.. i will write about this later,

Coming to this Tibetan issue and nehru’s idiocity, its really paining, to know, that we are ruled by such fools & day dreamers..

While writing about tibet, the braveness of C COmpany, 13th Kumoan regiment should be remembered, during 1962 china war. A mere 114 army men, thwarted Chinese advances in Leh, till its last surviving men. Their brave resistance had stopped chinese advancement for considerable time, and inflicted heavy damage on them. More than 1000 chinese men are reported to have died in this battle.

Interestingly, this incident has been equated the historic battle of thermopylae, waged by spartans against persian army.

When reviewing history, we see, that the lives of these brave men have been wasted by the casual and irresponsible behaviour of the initial congress leaders..

Let me quote some of excerpts from that book.. (Courtesy Rajeev’s blog)

Sardar Vallabhai’s quote on China ..

“We also have to take note of a thoroughly unscrupulous, unreliable and determined power practically at our doors… [It is clear that] we cannot be friendly with China and must think in terms of defense against a determined, calculating, unscrupulous, ruthless, unprincipled and prejudiced combination of powers, of which the Chinese will be the spearhead… [It is obvious to me that] any friendly or appeasing approaches from us would either be mistaken for weakness or would be exploited in furtherance of their ultimate aim.”

When Nehru was eloping with Panchsheel agreement to appease china, the American ambassador Henderson noted:

“the UK High Commission would like to be able to argue with Indian officials that if GoI bows to Communist China’s blackmail re Tibet, India will eventually be confronted with similar blackmail not only re Burma but re such areas as Assam, Bhutan, Sikkim, Kashmir, Nepal.”

Later, when confronted with the question of the undefined border, Nehru said,

“All these are high mountains. Nobody lives there. It is not very necessary to define these things.” And in the context of whether the Chinese might invade India, here’s Nehru again: “What might happen is some petty trouble in the borders and unarmed infiltration. To some extent this can be stopped by checkposts… Ultimately, however, armies do not stop communist infiltration or communist ideas… Any large expenditure on the army will starve the development of the country and social progress.”

He went so far as to decline a seat at the UN Security Council because the China seat was held by Taiwan. He did not want India to be in the Security Council until China was there too! Since many people are curious about this, here is chapter and verse: it is in the Selected Works of Jawaharlal Nehru, Series II, Vol. 29, Minutes of meeting with Soviet Leaders, Moscow, 22 June 1955, pp. 231. Here is the conversation between Nehru and Soviet Premier Marshal Bulganin:

“Bulganin: While we are discussing the general international situation and reducing tension, we propose suggesting at a later stage India’s inclusion as the sixth member of the Security Council.

Nehru: Perhaps Bulganin knows that some people in USA have suggested that India should replace China in the Security Council. This is to create trouble between us and China. We are, of course, wholly opposed to it. Further, we are opposed to pushing ourselves forward to occupy certain positions because that may itself create difficulties and India might itself become a subject of controversy. If India is to be admitted to the Security Council it raises the question of the revision of the Charter of the UN. We feel that this should not be done till the question of China’s admission and possibly of others is first solved. I feel that we should first concentrate on getting China admitted.”

The casual observer might wonder whether Nehru was India’s prime minister, or China’s.

[The above lines taken from Rajeev's Blog]

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I was infuriated on reading the above statements of Nehru.. Incidently, arent today’s leaders speaking the same language.

Are we praising such an ignorant idiot.. Cleverly, Indian minds are locked over Nehru’s Love for child and his autobiography.

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Infact, the review is more interesting in rajeev’s blog..

The main purpose of me writing this article is to highlight the Nehru’s idiotic policies which we are hailing without ever understanding..,

Infact, these are just glimpses of the truth exposed.. A Lot of Official documents on 1962 war remains protected even after 40 years of the war.. The only reason for the congress government to protect those is not to expose themselves.. Such was the cowardice and conspiracy behind nehru’s much hyped legend.

Its high time, that Indian people start demanding the truths to be known..

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