I Did NOT vote

I Did NOT vote today.. and my entire family did not vote.. my friend questioned me on this..

I asked him “what is the proof you have for your vote”.. he told he has gone to voting booth and pressed a button for his party of choice..

i asked him “But where is the physical proof of your vote.. your vote now lies only as some electronic signal.. which can be changed to any way instantly, if one wants”..

he agreed and asked what is the solution.. i told him, we have to return to ballot papers..

he then ridiculed me “You are asking for return to trunk call, in an era of smart phone.. we have to adopt the latest technology “..

“I told him, that it is an era of smart phone viruses too.. its an era of advanced hacking.. Even Germany did not use EVM.. they use ballot papers.. Is India more advanced than them? ” i asked..

he could not answer again..

i then continued..

“the duty of democracy (as he believes) does not end with voting alone.. the real duty is in understanding the voting process and ensuring that your vote is secured and not manipulated.. you are in IT field, and you are NOT aware of these possibilities of manipulation.. all electronic machines can be electronically controlled in this technologically advanced world .. and EVM s can be controlled and manipulated from america through satellite.. “..

My friend was taken back and escaped saying “I should not have asked you this question..” he is not even able to understand what i am saying..

In the nation of idiots, only foxes and scoundrels rule..

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35 Responses to I Did NOT vote

  1. Sachin says:

    you are right Senthil. Just like we can tamper auto-rickshaw meter this could be also done. Totally agree with you.

  2. hilda raja says:

    I fully agree with you Sentil.We need to get back to the ballot papers.The EVMs can be manipulated through remote control also.As you so well put it.So this is a big farce.But the whole electioneering is a farce.Look at Priyanka saying not to vote for her mother but for mother land.A vote for Sonia means a vote for the country.So like Indira is India so Sonia becomes motherland and country.She invokes Buddha and Gandhiji to prove our love for her mother.She is not born here but you accepted her with so much of love.Yes we did but that does not mean we need to give our country to her and to her family and the Italian mafia.These two RG and Priyanka Gandhi with their mother will do anything and that will include tampering with the EVMs.Take care and may God guide this beloved country of mine.HR

  3. narayanan venkataraman says:

    i don’t agree with you
    narayanan venkataraman

  4. vyas says:

    Senthil – I agree with every statement of yours in this article. I’ve had several discussions like this with my friends before, but no one has taken the issue of tamper-able EVMs seriously. Only people like Su.Swamy is raising voice against it because he has insider information that these were indeed tampered in the past elections. We should indeed return to paper ballots or at the very least print a note on paper for every button press on the EVM. That way you are sure that the party you voted for is indeed the one that’s registered in the EVM too. Later if there is any discrepancy you can always recount the printed paper notes and match them with the votes registered in the EVMs to resolve the dispute. Finally one must understand that anything electronic is hackable.

  5. Ram1 #HDL (@aravozhukkam) says:

    Our Election Commission dodging the question on receipt for voting & promoting the nonsense called NOTA. For doing NOTA, why should a person go to the polling booth at all. For many fashion seekers who say all politicians are corrupt & don’t want to vote, this NOTA may be good. Till the time we pack up the mafia called UPA, run by USA, EVM doctoring cannot be stopped.

    • vyas says:

      NOTA is brought under the notion that if a majority of people end up using that option, then there will or should be a re-election. Such stupidity happens only in a rights based society.

      • senthil says:

        NOTA is a clever ploy by congress to divert anti-congress votes from reaching BJP..

        the present democracy itself is a farce.. this is a democracy of slaves.. its like a the prison master asking the slaves to choose their own warden..

        • vyas says:

          //NOTA is a clever ploy by congress to divert anti-congress votes from reaching BJP..//

          May be congress was an opportunist in implementing it this time, but NOTA had been in request by social activists for a very long time – remember 49 ‘O’ movement? It’s just an entity to facilitate one more choice for some citizens with a different mind. These stupid choice based societies are bound to fail.

          • senthil says:

            /** but NOTA had been in request by social activists for a very long time **/

            Who are those social activists.. the key lies in it

        • vyas says:

          //Who are those social activists.. the key lies in it//

          Not all social activists are bad. Many of them are simply misled, that’s all. All I’m trying to say is that Congress may only be an opportunist in using NOTA in this election, but the voice for NOTA has been going on for decades.

          • senthil says:

            /** Not all social activists are bad **/

            Social activism itself is a western concept.. it is patently bad and meant for spying and intrusion..

  6. vyas says:

    //Social activism itself is a western concept.. it is patently bad and meant for spying and intrusion..//

    I’m talking about people not the system. By the way social activism has existed for millenniums perhaps in a different form.

    • senthil says:

      u have to talk about the system.. NOT the people.. people’s behaviour is shaped by the system they live in..

      • vyas says:

        True, but if people don’t have an appropriate system in house to voice their opinion, they’ll obviously look outside.

        • senthil says:

          we have our own system .. but that is destroyed by current colonial system..

          our traditional panchayat system was a powerful platform and system for voicing opinion.. khap is an example.. but the urban india & hindutva doesnt recognise it..

          • vyas says:

            Until those ancient systems are restored, people will obviously look for solutions outside. Finally stop your mindless and idiotic allegations against Hindutva. I’ve heard enough of it. You are exhibiting your idiocracy to the core. In my opinion in some respects what our degraded jaathis couldn’t do is being done by Hindutva. In fact I consider Hindutva as a placeholder for some of the responsibilities bestowed upon Jaathis. Once Jaathis regain their position, Hindutva will slowly decline. Until then, we need an entity called Hindutva.

          • senthil says:

            you need to fist stop the blind defense of hindutva and hindu organisations.. they deliberately allowed every native system to be destroyed by the colonial forces.. i hv seen it first hand.. and till now they never supported any traditional institution..

  7. vyas says:

    //you need to fist stop the blind defense of hindutva and hindu organisations.. //

    It’s not me. It’s you who is blindly defending Jaathis and their atrocities by conveniently putting the blame on urban systems. Though I support Hindutva, I condemn them too on their approach on a lot of things, but you are blindly supporting everything Jaathi as if the jaathi leaders are crystal pure. You keep talking about the system but forget the people inside it. You are living in your own imaginative world.

    // they deliberately allowed every native system to be destroyed by the colonial forces//

    That’s wrong. They didn’t deliberately destroy it. They just didn’t focus on it. You fail to understand that by the time Hindutva rose, jaathi systems had already lost all their political control and a national movement was absolutely necessary to keep the people of India intact against the British and Abrahamic forces. The jaathi forces in the last century have degraded a lot and become highly inhuman and selfish. No one can deny this. I have personally witnessed this. Your own example of Brahmin lawyers ill-treating their clients only re-iterates this fact. Without a movement like Hindutva, logical unity of jaathi forces at the national level is simply not possible. As long as there is a nation called “India” there will be a requirement for a movement like Hindutva. You simply cannot avoid it, you can probably streamline it.

    • senthil says:

      /** Without a movement like Hindutva, logical unity of jaathi forces at the national level is simply not possible **/

      Logical unity of jathis exists in traditional society.. what hindutva does is to accept global capitalistic system and establish it as reality.. jathis degrade and bcome meaningless in this capitalistic system

      • vyas says:

        /Logical unity of jathis exists in traditional society//

        Yes, but what has been done to bring out or exhibit that unity in the last 100 years when the pseudo seculars were constantly ditching it? You simply fail to understand the reality and live in your own imaginative world. Hindutva may have it’s own set of pitfalls, but you simply cannot dump it, until you find a suitable alternative. You can only work to eradicate those problems and provide a new dimension to it.

        // what hindutva does is to accept global capitalistic system and establish it as reality//

        This is not a fault of Hindutva. It’s reality and Hindutva tried to adopt it in order to survive. Even Jaathis have done that in the past and doing it even now.

        // jathis degrade and bcome meaningless in this capitalistic system//

        Then, blame the capitalistic system, not Hindutva and then work for decapitalizing it.

        • senthil says:

          /** You simply fail to understand the reality and live in your own imaginative world. **/

          See.. i am living at ground level, interacting with my community people.. i know the reality.. its up to u to accept what i say

          /** Then, blame the capitalistic system, not Hindutva and then work for decapitalizing it. **/

          why me? why not u? how can u or me decapitalise, when the bulk of urban indians are part of this capitalistic system driving it and supporting it?

          • vyas says:

            //why me? why not u? how can u or me decapitalise, when the bulk of urban indians are part of this capitalistic system driving it and supporting it?//

            You again keep repeating your junk. Unless jaathis becomes a movement and gets accepted in the constitution, they’ll never be able to thrive politically. But still jaathis survive only because of cultural affinity. It’s high time that jaathi forces join together to incorporate constitutional acceptance. Only movements like Hindutva have the power to do this and we have to work towards that. Instead of doing that people like you are either ridiculing the urban system or begging before them not to disturb the traditional jaathi systems. What’s the point in doing it?

          • senthil says:

            /** You again keep repeating your junk. **/

            Unless you recognise the problem i stated, there will be no progress in this discussion.. we cannot find solution by ignoring the root cause..

            /** Only movements like Hindutva have the power to do this and we have to work towards that **/

            When hindutva could not do this in the past 80 years, how can u expect it to do now.. i hv pointed you that hindutva is silently wishing for destruction of jathi and supporting the current systems..

            pls try to work at ground level and speak based on ur experience.. not based on your imagination..

          • vyas says:

            //When hindutva could not do this in the past 80 years, how can u expect it to do now//

            Even the jaathi system could not accomplish anything in the last century or two to safeguard themselves. Are you asking for it’s destruction too? As I said before, Hindutva has it’s own pitfalls which needs to be fixed. But completely giving up Hindutva will be suicidal. A sane solution would be to align Hindutva towards our dharmic practices and make it more plural.

            //pls try to work at ground level and speak based on ur experience.. not based on your imagination..//

            This is a problem with you. You think you are the only one who has working knowledge on the ground level and brand everyone else as idiots. What else can I say?

          • senthil says:

            Jathi setup was the life line of india.. without it, india would have collapsed.. whereas, hindutva has NOT done anything concretely .. it simply created idiots, who are just happy going to shaka daily and feel they have served the nation..

            I am telling this out of my 6 years field experience.. not out of any imagination or ideological aspect..

            /** This is a problem with you. You think you are the only one who has working knowledge on the ground level and brand everyone else as idiots. What else can I say?
            **/

            if u hv working knowledge, pls share it.. u havent done so far.. i did not brand any one here..

          • vyas says:

            //whereas, hindutva has NOT done anything concretely .. it simply created idiots, who are just happy going to shaka daily and feel they have served the nation..//

            If not for Hindutva, we could not have established our identity strongly in an anglo-saxon dominated world. I totally agree with you on your criticism about Hindutva failing to recognize jaathis, but that doesn’t mean we can dump it. The problem with you is that you keep forgetting that we are living in a highly connected World. There are so many enemy forces around which always try to infiltrate us with their ideas and we need to tackle them on a day to day basis. For this we need an entity called Hindutva. I’m all for reformation of Hindutva but not destruction which will be suicidal.

            //if u hv working knowledge, pls share it.. u havent done so far.. i did not brand any one here..//

            What working knowledge are you expecting out of me?

  8. senthil says:

    @vyas,

    /** If not for Hindutva, we could not have established our identity strongly in an anglo-saxon dominated world. **/’

    What kind of identity did we establish? Is it our own identity? Hindu is NOT our identity.. its a geographical identity created by mlechas (middle east) and converted to religious identity by colonisers…

    and another question is Why are we obsessed with establishing / proving our identity to anglo saxon ? This obsession is negative and reactionary and prevents us from focussing on our original constructive work..

    /** The problem with you is that you keep forgetting that we are living in a highly connected World. **/

    You are forgetting the fact that the so called connected world is nothing but capitalistic system, were the illuminatis want to establish a NEW WORLD ORDER. the hindutva fools are working for their cause by working for connecting even remote areas of our land..

    You cannot achieve independence by working as slave to some one.

    /** There are so many enemy forces around which always try to infiltrate us with their ideas and we need to tackle them on a day to day basis. For this we need an entity called Hindutva
    **/

    This is what i call as Phobia.. the worst disease propogated by the hindutva morons.. creating insecurity among people, making them nervous and reactionary.. these are all destructive and cowardly acts.. it wiil make us another barbaric abrahamic group, rather than free thinking dharmic people..

    Ofcourse, the islamic and christian threat needs to be countered.. spreading fear psychosis is not a way..

    • vyas says:

      //What kind of identity did we establish? Is it our own identity? Hindu is NOT our identity.. its a geographical identity created by mlechas (middle east) and converted to religious identity by colonisers…//

      Don’t talk rubbish. Identities will always get added as and when days pass by. Thousand years ago nobody knows what exactly our identities were. Today we broadly categorize us using just our jaathis, but in the past identities were highly local and involved. Similarly the term “Hindu” is an assumed national identity that is a need of the hour. You simply cannot avoid it. What needs to be done is to fight for pluralism within.

      //and another question is Why are we obsessed with establishing / proving our identity to anglo saxon ? //

      We are in a war. Whether you like it or not we are being pushed into it and we are forced to fight it. In such a situation, it is our enemies who decide the weapon we use and Hindutva is one such weapon.

      //You are forgetting the fact that the so called connected world is nothing but capitalistic system, were the illuminatis want to establish a NEW WORLD ORDER. the hindutva fools are working for their cause by working for connecting even remote areas of our land//

      Internet has connected India far wider than what the roads/rails have in the past century. Why don’t you stop using it from today? What you are suggesting is to voluntarily isolate us in a highly connected World. This is impossible to achieve right now. You are being pushed into a participatory economy and even to isolate yourself, you need to first participate in it and then virtually isolate from it.

      //You implement what you are saying at ground level and share your experience.. that’s the kind of working knowledge i am expecting.//

      You can’t expect ground level experience from everyone. I agree that I may have minimal ground level experience as you do but I’m also talking based on the ground level experience of others too.

  9. senthil says:

    @vyas,

    /** What working knowledge are you expecting out of me? **/

    You implement what you are saying at ground level and share your experience.. that’s the kind of working knowledge i am expecting.

  10. Madhukar Raju says:

    Dear Mr.Senthil,
    I believe this post started with you not voting. So what is the solution to this? Do you want Thevar’s rule ?? Yes, personally I too wish we had retained Thevar-rule, but that is not going to happen now. By not voting what did you achieve? In fact you had only helped AAP-tards and UPA by not voting, and who knows somebody from Bangaladesh could have casted your vote !!!

    • senthil says:

      My contention is that who ever u vote, it will be manipulated by the controllers of EVM..

      also even if BJP comes, there will be not much change.. the same capitalistic exploitative policies will continue..

  11. KP says:

    Your reason for not voting is ridiculous. Absurdity at its best. It’s atrocious to block your family members from exercising their democratic rights.

    And, then why use wordpress? It can be hacked,too. Why don’t you use printed material to express and circulate your ideas. Please grow up. Adapt the changes as you grow.

    Seriously, I’ve never thought you would be this irrational.

    FYI, if EVMs can be hacked and votes can be changed, why Congress party lost elections? Why they changed votes only in 44 constituencies not the rest? For that matter why BJP changed the EVMs only in 282 seats not the remaining?

    There were a few(very few I should say) brilliant, stubborn and rational arguments about the caste system from you(Though I didn’t like the caste system per se) which I liked in the past. But occasionally you churn out stupidity like this on your blog.

    Don’t always blame the changes. Changes are inevitable.Rather just offer solutions that how the changes and old habits (a few I would say) can exist together.

    • senthil says:

      /** FYI, if EVMs can be hacked and votes can be changed, why Congress party lost elections? Why they changed votes only in 44 constituencies not the rest? For that matter why BJP changed the EVMs only in 282 seats not the remaining?
      **/

      These has to be found out..

      i did not vote, because the EVM does not guarantee my vote, which exists as a mere electronic pulse.. Dont i have the right to question that?

      /** There were a few(very few I should say) brilliant, stubborn and rational arguments about the caste system from you(Though I didn’t like the caste system per se) which I liked in the past. But occasionally you churn out stupidity like this on your blog.
      **/

      I focus on being what i am and expressing what i feel as right.. some of those are acceptable to you and some not.. its natural.. right.. i respect ur straight forwardness to criticise me when u dont agree..

      /** Don’t always blame the changes. Changes are inevitable. **/

      If i dont have the right to reject the change, then it means i am enslaved and lost the freedom..

  12. vyas says:

    //FYI, if EVMs can be hacked and votes can be changed, why Congress party lost elections? Why they changed votes only in 44 constituencies not the rest? For that matter why BJP changed the EVMs only in 282 seats not the remaining? //

    Congress is not a fool like you to rig EVMs across the nation. They very well know that they might be caught if they do so. By the way EVMs can be hacked or for that matter any electronic device can be hacked. Moreover EVMs cannot be hacked wirelessly. They need extreme co-ordination from the concerned authorities to be successful. Not all authorities are co-operative. This is why Su.Swamy asked for paper trails for each vote that’s cast. This way if there is a suspicion in a particular locality we can easily compare the electronic votes with that of paper output. Additionally this method gives the voter a sense of satisfaction that the vote indeed went to the party that he voted for. In current scenario you just don’t know this for sure. We just see the light blinking and there is no guarantee that the vote indeed went to the party we voted for.

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