he elections to the Nepal assembly are over, and now counting of votes began. There were lot of international observers and monitoring agencies who came there to monitor the elections. The results will be announced after 10 days.
The newspapers so far, projected as though the holy, never-wrong democracy is flourishing over the Monarch and fuedalism. The Maoists, who butchered numerous people, created lawlessness through out the country, and involved in rowdyism, totalitarian and fascist acts are now projected as those who are longing for peace.
Is there anything called Justice or righteousness here?
What is the problem with the king? He has provided stability, and security to the people of Nepal.
Are our Indic Kings feudal?
Before that, let’s see what is meant by feudalism.
As per wikipedia, feudalism is d
Feudalism, a term first used in the early modern period (17th century), in its most classic sense refers to a Medieval European political “system” comprised of a set of reciprocal legal and military obligations among the warrior nobility, revolving around the three key concepts of lords, vassals, and fiefs.
Feudalism is essentially characterised by lords, vassals and serfs. This is the characteristics of western society, where the people has to accept the authority of the kings. Much of the lands was owned by nobles, who inturn control the people in their respective areas.
So essentially, there are few noble landlords who controlled the entire country and people, and the kings controlling these landlords. The common people were mere slaves.
So, what was there in India? It has been entirely different from the above. There is no such thing called slaves. Rather, people lived in a commune way. Each commune was brought under a local ruler, who is responsible for the administration of the area. Normally, the community which does agriculture is given the local administrative tasks.
Relation b/w Kings and People:
However in India, the relationship b/w kings and people were based on the concept called Dharma. Who ever becomes the king, the people accepted him as long as he stuck to the dharma of a ruler. So, people worshipped the rightful king as God, and the kings in turn treat his subjects with respect.
We can see this beautiful relation in Bhutan, Thailand, and Nepal.
Not only kings. Any person, who protects the people were in turn reverred by the people. Earlier, it was the warriors who protected people. Later, during muslim rule and british rule, where political class lost its power, people reverred those wealthy persons who helped them in critical situations. Many of the chettiars are once largest donors to the society.
In western society, this kind of mutual respect was absent. Any one who do not accept the king is tortured or killed. The relation b/w people are more or less master slave.
Imposition of western model in India:
When britishers completely dominated India, the first thing they targetted was the political centre of all regions. Most of the endowments to temples and educational institutions were unsurped, and later, the eurpoean model of polity was introduced.
Those who offer more wealth to britishers and co-operate with them are given powers whereas Indian kings gave powers to those who administer the area well.
Thus, over the 200 years of british rule, the european model of feudalism started creeping in.
Deliberate Media mis-representation:
Let’s consider the Nepal situation. The earlier king Birendra was loved by the whole nepal people. Later, unfortunately his whole family was massacred. IT was alleged that king gnanendra was responsible for the events. The people also became suspicious, and he has lost some respect among people.
Imagine.. Losing some respect itself is a sever blow to the king, and hence most of indian kings feared for people’s opinion. This aspect is completely absent in western monarchy. Another factor which shows us that indian kings were not Feudal.
Ok.. But, the usual business continued. King did his duty, and the people did not have much problem from him.
This is the reason, why there was no opposition from the people to Gnanendra.
The maoist atrocities:
It was the maoist who started violence during the rule of King Birendra itself. Again, the usual artificial scenario was taken up. They tried to project as though king is suppressing everyone. But it falied much, as there was not much support from the people.
So, later they employed the usual tactics of revolutionaries from Che Guevara’s Guerilla Warfare book. These are as follows.
- establish a base in the jungle.
- Attack all the governmental institution in the country side, so that the government could not function there.
- Create a situation, where there is no alternative to the revolutionaries.
- THen launch the struggle towards the urban centres, and finally capture the power.
If we see the history of maoist, this has been what happened so far. The maoist unleashed wave of terror, so that no one dared to oppose them. THus virtually there was no alternative to them.
However, due to India’s support to the king, and people’s acceptance of the king, the maoist could not make any inroads in to the urban centres much.
Role of Church:
Maoist leader is a christian. And its obvious, that the international missionaries has been behind the recent hijack of the monarch. They had been attempting for conversion programmes for many years, but the king
had kept them away. So there is a need to overthrow him, to continue their cultural genocide.
Role of India:
Traditionally, India has been the supporter of the king, as the king is culutrally more close to india. But, the last government being virtually hijacked by madam antonio maino, alias sonia gandhi, there was no one to deal with any crisis that india faced. The PM being a dummy role, and with real power existing with non-acting, incapable sonia gandhi, the situations in nepal has been deliberately left to degrade.
One factor is the communists locking the government.
Another factor is the fact that sonia gandhi is a catholic christian. She has no other option, except to support the missionaries in overthrowing the king.
Role of China:
Its an open secret that china is behind the maoists. But, they also seem to be cautious in dealing with them, as they also supported the king earlier. It seems the are playing double game earlier to keep nepal in check, and now openly sided with the maoists.
Why should Monarchy be abolished?
No one seems to ask this question. With most medias under western control and maoists control, there was deliberate unreasonable propoganda against the king. Even BBC is believed to have included in this propoganda.
Without ever reasoning properly, they started putting news like “Nepal is geared up for secular republic” .. No proofs or no representation of people’s voices in these newspapers.. But, they tried to project as if the people are welcoming the change and against the king.
Particularly, no one ever asked the question “Why not nepal be Hindu state?” when the 95% of its people are Hindus. No press seems to ask, or let the hindu people’s voice be represented.
The reason is that the secularism has been deliberately thrust upon Nepal, to aid christian conversion.
The behaviour of Maoists:
If we see at the behaviour of Maoists, they have been virtually representing totalitarian regime. Prachanda is worse than stalin. There is no alternate views allowed.
The youth communist league has unleashed violence against every opponens that nepal PM koirala termed them as Youth Criminalist league.
Why should the international community support such criminal organisation.
Shouldnt Prachanda be put behind international court for organising mass murders on the Nepal people?
Hijacking of Democracy:
This democracy is the most comedy ever happened in Nepal. The royalists are deliberately suppressed by the maoist. They had already suppressed all emerging leaders in the country side, which is their strong hold. With money from china pumped, they had established their safe base.
Till the date of election, violence continued. Former killers from maoist side now standing elections.
The international media, hides the fact that peaceful nepal has been shattered by maoist, and in turn, hail them as heroes who had enough heart to change themselves to peaceful path.
Once again, the business of peace and democracy is staged to suit vested interests of some international lobby.
Indias self-inflicted foolishness:
The church is openly working for its selfish interests. The maoist for their selfish needs. The america, the britain, pakistan and china, all are playing their role to secure a place to contain india.
But, India remote controlled by inactive antonia maino , seems to be voluntarily letting its neighbour to get in to paralysis. A nation strongly affiliated to india culturally, is not going in to the hands of those people, who are dead against india, and Hinduism.
Its hightime that we save india first from this foreign lady, and then from the maoists. The need of the hour is our indian learned men, to realise this utter dangers.
HI SENTHIL,
MY SYMPATHIES ARE WITH YOU.
I HOPE COMMON SENSE AND PEACE FINALLY PREVAILS IN NEPAL
ALSO PEACE IS RESTORED EVEN THRU THE MAOISTS AS YOU SAY ASSISTED
BY CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES AND COMMUNIST CHINA,
STRANGE BED-FELLOWS…
SECULAR MEDIA IS NOT INTERESTED IN “RELIGION”
HENCE, NO ONE ASKS ABOUT, FALL OF THE LAST OF THE HINDU KINGOM…
I LOOK FORWARD TO AN ENTERPRISING FILM DIRECTOR PRODUCING:
THE LAST HINDU KINGDOM A LA “THE LAST EMPEROR”.
HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEK END WITH A STIFF SCOTCH.
IT WILL DO YOU REAL GOOD.
CM PAUL
Hm. The name paul tells it all. Senthil, you seem to have hit where it hurts.
But, Paul, you seem to have suggested a wrong Christian drink to a Diehard Hindu.
Coming to Nepal, the Christian in disguise Baburam Battarai and his team of hooligans will have plundered the Nation by the time people wake up to the threat. You will love to hear the Church bells ringing instead of temple bells there. Christianity and the Commies go hand in hand.
Secular media is not interested in Religion. Yes, the Hindu religion. They fall head over heel to tell the public the evil of the ‘Da vinci code’ and the prophet cartoons. But never over Godse’s court arguments which are still forbidden by the govt nor PN Oak’s books nor in ASI calling Rama a fictitious character.
So, to conclude, go get a tender coconut which will really cool you. But, keep coming to this blog. I want Indians to really see how many Hindu haters we have to encounter.
Venkat
Not related to Hinduism etc but related to Nepal election, I wrote couple of blogs:
http://sensiblerationalization.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-is-fair-election.html
http://sensiblerationalization.blogspot.com/2008/04/price-of-overconfidence-and-selfishness.html
Senthil,
Nepal is an independant country …What happens with in its territory its own problem…why do we want to get back into imperiliatic tendancies by interfering in other country;s business…Indians have no right to act as Big Brother to Saarc Countries…Instead we should focus on our internal development which seems to be non exiistant
Karthick..
We are in many ways affected by the developments in our neighbouring countries.. We can shift our house, if our neighbour become hostile.. but we cannot shift our country..
The problems in the nepal is masterminded by various vested interests.. the first entity is china, and the next one is the Vatican and christian missionaries..
For china, bringing communist to power in nepal will extend their frontier..
For missionaries, destroying the kingship means, weakening the hinduism, and thus it can continue its conversion agenda unhindered..
Now, arent our country affected by these developments?
The legalised maoist government in nepal will further induce maoist terrorism inside our country, which is already a biggest security problem..
The problem here is that the indian government which enjoyed good rapport with the king has deliberately withheld from helping its neighbout during the present turmoil.. result, we are now facing a hostile neighbour..
I need not say, who has directed the army to stop supporting the king..
China is a an autocracy ..It may try to interfere with other coutnries….Just because China does it…it does not mean we can do it…If India can interefe in Nepal ..then Usa has every right to interefe in the Indian affairs….So why dont we support that too..But we will not accept it or digest another country meddling in our affairs.So its implied that we have no right to do the same to smaller countries….
What is use of maintaining a good rapport with king who is a tyrant? and what is that go to do with missionaries?
I mean why dont we focus on the devlopment of India where a third are below poverty line ? why r we so keen on the elections in Nepal….and why is it that we compare just with military might of China..y dont we compete with economic and infrastrucure of China…I mean its an open secret Infrature in the Indian cities are not even 10 % of what is present in China….
So What i feel is that we should clean our house first before trying to clean another country…..
Please look at history more objectively instead of painting the Britishers as villains….
Feudalism has exsited in India much ‘fore it started in Europe…..I mean it existed under Cholas,Pallavas Pandyas and all…..
All Sitarasars mentioned in Literature were nothing but feudal lords……British did introduce the Zamindary system…..But then Palikarar system was also type of feudal setup…..
karthick,
Just my simple question.. What will you do, if some marauders come and stay as your neighbour? let us leave it.. what will you do, if a hostile person comes and stay as your nieghbour?
See.. your arguments are influenced by gandhian thoughts, which is highly detrimental to any one.. Dont look at others because you are not proper, means, encouraging a wrong voluntarily.. no one is proper in this world.. and if your criteria is to be applied, no one can question others..
I request you to be practical .. we can believe in any thoughts or philosophies.. but what is the practical one?
/**
China is a an autocracy ..It may try to interfere with other coutnries….Just because China does it…it does not mean we can do it…If India can interefe in Nepal ..then Usa has every right to interefe in the Indian affairs
**/
You are assuming as though, USA and china seeks india’s help to interfere in it.. You mean, china will interfere in nepal, usa will leverage nepal.. but we should not do, because we are not proper.. this argument itself is hollow.. we are doing a great harm to not only ourselves but to our good neighbour also..
/** What is use of maintaining a good rapport with king who is a tyrant? and what is that go to do with missionaries? **/
king as tyrant, is a biased statement.. if king is tyrant, then what are the maoists? are they not fascists and totalatarian, like stalin..
/** I mean why dont we focus on the devlopment of India where a third are below poverty line
**/
Can we ignore a security thread because there is poverty in india?
/** Please look at history more objectively instead of painting the Britishers as villains….
Feudalism has exsited in India much ‘fore it started in Europe…..I mean it existed under Cholas,Pallavas Pandyas and all…..
**/
Karthick.. in all objective ways, the britishers were the worst looters and a cunning villain..
there is no concrete meaning to feudalism.. but in general feudalism means, power without accountability.. In you agree with this, then i would boldly say, indian kings were Never feudal.. in fact, the self-sustaining villages, panchayat systems of india, are one of the unique in this world, that provided a real people’s rule..
The political setup of india could not be compared to political setup of europoe..
In indian polity, the conflict is always b/w the warriors, and the people were never touched..
Also, the invasion of cholas to southeast asia, did not make those countries poor.. the concept of tributes itself is different in our system, where the tribute amount is calculated based on the country’s income.. it doest collapse the society.. in one way, there was proper people to people mingling..
Whereas, for the britishers, india was seen as something as exploitable.. having exploited their own people, they were more barbaric in exploiting india from rich region to one of the poorest region when they left.. thus the british imperialism, has collapsed our entire social and cultural setup..
we need to read our history in our own terms.. if you feel, whatever written by western historians are true, probably i dont agree with that..
Senthil if u can find solution by blaming British ..please do it by all means…What security are talking about …If u think people are below poverty do think it will susatin..Its matter of time we see a Zimbabwe or pre revoltuion France….
I really dont know y we have this holier than thy attitude about India..Just because India does something does it make it right ?How can we possible meddle in affairs of an Independant country ?
Will u feel ok if say Russia tells u how to govern….I mean forget Russia..a Tamil Nadu cannot interfere in Kanadiga or a Kerala affair..how can India interfere in Nepal;s affair….We did a mistake in IPKF…so u want to create another LTTE in form of Maoist?
karthick,
You havent answered for my first question.. what will you do if a marauder comes and stays as your neighbour? and what will you do, if your another neighbour is at stake because of this marauder?
You have referred people as single entity.. its a wrong interpretation.. in india, only 30% are poor and remaining are middle and upper class.. Just by small voluntary sharing of the remaining 70% can very well alleviate the poverty..
But, when you compromise in security, your very existence is at stake..
more than half of india’s districts are infested with maoist.. dont you care for the country?
Even today, you can see reports that maoists killed 50 policement in andhra and blown railway tracks in bihar.. dont you feel, that they will get additional support, if nepal comes under maoist control?
When you ignore nation’s security, then everything is at stake..
Nehru committed this greatest blunder, and now we are suffering out of kashmir and tibetans are also suffering..
YOu need to come out of gandhian thoughts to understand the practicality.. To say that “Others can kick me, and i will not do anything” is a sign of self-destruction and mental weakness.
Its equivalent to telling a woman “Not to take violence, even if some one attempts to rape her”.. this is what gandhiji had told when pakistani marauders raped punjabi women during partition ..
Senthil,
Though my first visit you have hit the nail hard, specially on the erstwhile Christian British whore suppliers (and now the ruling Criminal Christianic mafia led by a WHITE FOREIGNER) so they are dreaming about their Christian heaven (real bloodlust) in India and Nepal (The king was forced by the evil machinations of the same Christianic Mafia now OCCUPYING India), BECAUSE THE EUROPEANS HAVE BASICALLY STOPPED FOLLOWING THE VOID, PSEUDO POPE MAFIA CALLED CHRISTIANITY, SO WHERE WOULD THE REAL TYRANT POPE, HEAD OF MURDER INC, VATICAN (THE CORPORATION THAT HAS KILLED 2000 MILLION PEOPLE IN ITS 2000 YEARS OF SATANIC HISTORY, AND DESTROYED AFRICA, SOUTH AMERICA, AUSTRALIA, ETC ETC, LOOTING THEIR GOLD, PETROLEUM, AND EVEN SLAVING THEM AND GAVE THEM BIB-LIE IN RETURN)
So basically you hav been arguing with the same PAUL OR HIS CLONE OF BRITISH APOLOGIST (ERSTWHILE …).
THE NEPAL KING WOULD BE NO TYRANT COMPARED TO THE TYRANT OF THE SHADOWY HELL CALLED VATICAN. WHAT THEY URGENTLY ARE “DEMANDING” IS TOTAL WAR ON THEM AND THEIR MINIONS THE COMMIE BASTARDS. AFTER ALL COMMUNISM IS JUST A DY/DX OF CHRISTIANITY
Senthil – I have a very basic question for you. Let’s leave the situation in Nepal aside for the time-being. Let’s also not get into whether democracy is good or not.
What data do you have to prove that every single Indic ruler in India/Nepal behaved admirably?That they feared bad-mouthing by people so much, that they reformed themselves?
You can’t say anything that comes to your mind just because a Hindu ruler was removed from power.
What you say is against basic human nature. Power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Now, why is monarchy bad, unless its just symbolic? Because people can’t change the ruler – that’s why. Whether s/he’s a tyrant or not, they are stuck with him/her. And the ruler really has no accountability – yes, it was all codified in the Dharma text books for people that wanted to follow the rules.
You may hate democracy. You may worry about the Maoist bastards. You may, as a devout Hindu, worry about the erasure of the last Hindu kingdom. You may worry about our safety.
That doesn’t mean you can claim that all the rulers accorded in a just manner because they feared public opinion. You don’t have any supporting data, do you? At the very least, you need to agree that monarchy when not symbolic has serious problems.
Let me make my stance clear.
I think democracy is the best option we have. But of course, it has its faults & I’m sure better systems can be thought out. What those better systems are is a different discussion altogether.
I don’t like the concept of religion-based countries. But, I can understand that having at least 1 Hindu country will mean a lot to devout Hindus. If there can be Muslim countries, why can’t there be Hindu countries?
And yes – Maoists are bastards. But, all countries need to figure out how to integrate terrorists into a peaceful civilian life. Sometimes, we can’t have justice if we want peace. There’s an excellent article on this week’s Economist about this.
And I am worried about the safety of India. Any regime change may threaten this region.
Having said that, I think Monarchy is a flawed system well past the expiration date. There are rumors that this Gnanendra killed Birendra & his family. His only claim to be a ruler is that he inherited it. He hasn’t worked for it. I’m not wasting any sympathy on him.
Thanks priya.. I dont have any data to backup as i am not a historian.. I wrote this post based on my understanding so far about indic culture, its history, and some analysis on the social psyche of our people and the associated social & political systems..
I dont claim it to be authentic.. I welcome any progressive discussions on our history/society, but with indigenous thoughts..
Ok.. now coming to your questions..
1. I dont certify all indian kings/rulers.. but, in most of the cases, it should have been true.. i am saying this, because, the underlying social system is entirely different from west and the east, and so as the political system..
2. I agree to your saying “Power Corrupts absolutely”.. Its a human nature.. But, we had many checks and balances in the power structure..
For example, in traditional indian society, the power is highly distributed.. people lived communally and socially, and there was self-regulation at the basic level.. ie the village level..
The king is essentially integrator/regulator for all these small power centres..
Also, the indic spirituality played a major role in this checks and balances..
The absense of spiritual thoughts and philosophical freedom in the west, had lead to absolute power, and all other things you have said.. the king is ultimate authority and no questions against him.. whoever had the power and wealth, ruled the roost.. that’s certainly not the case in indic society..
The vaishyas were all wealthy, but the power remained with the king/ruler, and the administration handled by brahmins and other knowledged persons..
3. In indic society, it was mutual respect and mutual acceptance in the society.. (i am not speaking of today’s society).. the panchayat was the basic power structure, and with such highly distributed one, the absolute rule is impossible.. however, king had the full right to do anything that’s beneficial to the people..
To cite an example that i read in a magazine..
The king of travancore, was once unable to pay the tribute to Britishers.. the collector would arrest him, the next time he doesnt pay the tribute.. and having heard of this situation, the people under his rule, gave him all their belongings (jewels), to the king, to save him from arrest.. and as a gratitude, the king relaxed some of the rules for the people to utilise the forest resources..
I dont have any internet references.. and this is a small incident.. but the mutual respect and affection b/w kings and his subjects, is a remarkable one..
To understand this psyche, we need to first think in our own terms..
In short, in western standards, the king is absolute authority.. In indic terms, the king is a protector of the nation.. There is lot of difference b/w the both..
Your thoughts..
Note: (I am saying this based on my own understanding)
I dont support the king gnanendra fully.. But, my point is that the kingship could have been constitutional, just like british king, or the spain king..
And the move to make nepal secular is where the issue is.. and the extraordinary interest shown by vatican, and the persons of external forces involved in the crisis.. there is enough room for suspect..
The present form of Democracy is not a suitable one for India.. No single system can fit for all..
And in the present form of democracy, the homogeneity of people is an essential criteria.. US is a homogenous race with some minorities.. similarly, britain and other european nations..
But india is not like that.. the present form of democracy is detrimental to our nation.. Fortunately, due to the inherent nature of india, we lived through this system..
there is a basic underlying question?? Is democracy, a matter of arithmetic numbers? If so, then i would say, its worst form of governance.. because, 51% dominates the rest of 49%..
And its the same democracy that has eliminated hindus from pakistan and bangladesh.. and the hindus from kashmir.. (in contrast, under the king harising, the muslims were well off)..
There is one more angle to this kind of power struggle.. the advent of Buddhism is the first incident in history where power is highly misused for ideological purpose.. before that, there is no such motivated use of power..
And then the advent of christianity, and then the later islam, contributed to the concept of absolute power and authority, and the entire world was polarised,
Senthil – Let me answer some of your points.
“In indic society, it was mutual respect and mutual acceptance in the society.. (i am not speaking of today’s society)”
But, we are talking about a king in today’s society in Nepal. How do you know that the Gnanendra adhered to all the ideals & norms listed down in the Dharma texts? Even if we assume that all the kings of yore were phenomenal – I don’t agree, but let’s assume that – how does that have a bearing on how a king conducts himself in modern times? As you say yourself, things have changed a lot.
“I dont support the king gnanendra fully.. But, my point is that the kingship could have been constitutional, just like british king, or the spain king”
Perhaps. But why? For what earthly reason should monarchy be sustained? There’s not a single reason that you’ve given that justifies monarchy.
Till recently, there was an over-whelming feeling among the British about doing away with the monarchs completely. They’ve let them stay on because – one of the reasons is – they are good for tourism.
“US is a homogenous race with some minorities.. similarly, britain and other european nations”
Oh God, you are dead wrong here. There’s so much news & articles in the media about diversity, assimilation & race relations in North America & Europe. President Sarkozy is working with the North African countries to form a Mediterranean League to address some of these problems. I’ve been to many of these countries, spoken to the natives – and to North Africa, where people’s dream is to catch a ferry to Europe. Diversity is a huge issue there.
“And its the same democracy that has eliminated hindus from pakistan and bangladesh.. and the hindus from kashmir.. (in contrast, under the king harising, the muslims were well off)”
In all honesty, there’s no democracy in Pak or in Bangladesh. Not that democracy will make people do noble things. People are rat bastards & they’ll continue to be that. Democracy or otherwise. Its the monarchy in Spain that led to the Spanish Inquisition. Think about that.
“the advent of Buddhism is the first incident in history where power is highly misused for ideological purpose”
Hmm. Unfortunately, we don’t have written records before the Buddhists. So, you are again going by your bias.
The mistake you make is this. And I could be wrong here.
Just because Nepal will be secular, you support everything – I mean, every single thing – about it when it was a Hindu country. That’s not a very objective thing to do.
After all, Nepal is not our country. As Karthik says, its the choice of the Nepalis to do away with the monarchy. You & I may be Hindus, but a Christian Nepali has more say in how his/her country is run than you or me.
Would you be ok if Nepal became a democracy, but retained the king as a figure-head?
OR
Would you feel happy if Nepal remained a Hindu country, but didn’t have the king any more?
/** How do you know that Gnanendra adhered to all the ideals & norms listed down in the Dharma texts? **/
ITs not about religious following of dharma texts.. because dharma itself cannot be defined concretely.. my point is that barring the shadow of the palace massacre, i havent read any other negatives of the king..
I would like to know your comments on the following..
“In the western society, the king is an autocrat.. But in Indic societies, the king is the protector. “
/** But why? For what earthly reason should monarchy be sustained? There’s not a single reason that you’ve given that justifies monarchy. **/
Because, in indic terms, the king is not just a ruler.. He is focal point of indic culture.. To cite an example, the jagannath temple in Puri, still accords the special rights to the Nepal king, even though he was thrown out..
Another example is the ritual where the king bows to the child Goddess .. its an important aspect of the Nepali Hindu Culture, which the maoists want to throw away..
/** Hmm. Unfortunately, we don’t have written records before the Buddhists. So, you are again going by your bias. **/
Anything that doesnt have proof is false as long as its proved.. (i remember you saying this somewhere)
.. (However i dont subscribe to this..)
Btw, i just expressed this, based on my understanding of world history, and i am well aware i may be wrong.. i want to understand more..
/** In all honesty, there’s no democracy in Pak or in Bangladesh. **/
That’s why i said, the present way of democracy is not suitable for south asia.. more eg: like thailand, burma etc.
Human kind needs to have a better system, and that’s not an Impossible one..
Senthil – You misquote me. I wonder how you managed to twist that precept out of shape. Plus, you don’t seem to have read & understood “Carl Sagan’s Baloney Detection Kit” that Sukumar mentioned in one of his posts.
The only conclusion I can come to is, you don’t want to question your cherished beliefs. You hold onto them passionately, nothing anyone says will change your opinion.
Let me stop with this, since I doubt if you want to reflect on your line of thinking, take an opposing point of view & see if that could be right.
Coming back to Nepal. So the way I see it – its an all or nothing scenario for you. You can’t have a Hindu country without a Monarch. There’s nothing you can do about it though, is there?
Sometimes I feel bad for ultra conservative people (as in protectionists, wanting to conserve our way of living exactly as it was) like you. Because change is unstoppable. Only the dark ages & invasion by Huns can halt change. It must be very frustrating.
Priya.. I had very well read about the Detection Kit.. and i had given your views equal weightage..
But, my way of acceptance is that only if i am convinced that my existing belief is wrong, i would change it.. I may be wrong now.. and if i am so, the first thing i need is to understand why i am wrong..
In most occasions, i go by my instinct..
However, your views also would be very useful.. because in future, i may be reminded of your points, and understand it, based on new data and information.. (as points always connect backwards in life)
Thanks for expressing your views..